Posted by John Goor on October 22, 2003 at 16:52:31:
In Reply to: Re: Re: Re: Know any good D's? posted by Chuck(G) on October 22, 2003 at 11:52:32:
Hmm. This is getting a little complicated. I said i can tune instruments to within 5 or so cents, which is pretty close to the average listeners pitch shift detection. (hey, im still workin on it!)
1) When I listen to an ensemble playing in just intonation, the notes only sound wrong if the ensemble bites. Otherwise, if they are slightly our of tune, it will "sour" the music just a bit. But it won't ruin the music or anything silly like that.
2) Agreed. Recognizing pitches is only the first step to actually playing in tune yourself. Just because someone knows when they're in or out of tune, doesnt mean they will play perfectly in tune. I know a few people with perfect pitch that are simply horrible musicians regardless of or directlty because of their vaunted "pitch power". People with PP aren't monsters of talent. It takes them practice to play well, just as any of you have had to practice on anything.
I know I always play in tune, because i can hear that I play in tune. This, however, does not make me a master musician. It simply means I have one less thing to work on when I practice.
3) I know, through years of experiance, what notes like A, B, f# ect sound like. But recognizing notes is a little less of a shot in the dark then guessing jars.
To use your analogy, if the warehouse was a piece of music, and the jars were its notes, I can see each jar by itself,identify what is in each jar, the jar in relation to other jars, and the summation of all the jars. The equivilent "real world" version of this would be having complete mental knowledge of the warehouse stock.
and, here is the pitch system i use:
Musical Pitches
ISO note names, frequencies (Hertz) and MIDI note numbers
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PITCH / FREQ / MIDI PITCH / FREQ / MIDI PITCH / FREQ / MIDI
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C0 - 12 C4 261.626 60*MC C8 4186.009 108*PH
C#0 - 13 C#4 277.183 61 C#8 4434.922 109
D0 - 14 D4 293.665 62 D8 4698.637 110
D#0 - 15 D#4 311.127 63 D#8 4978.032 111
E0 - 16 E4 329.628 64 E8 5274.042 112
F0 - 17 F4 349.228 65 F8 5587.652 113
F#0 - 18 F#4 369.994 66 F#8 5919.912 114
G0 - 19 G4 391.995 67 G8 6271.928 115
G#0 - 20 G#4 415.305 68 G#8 6644.876 116
A0 27.500 21*PL A4 440.000 69 A8 7040.000 117
A#0 29.135 22 A#4 466.164 70 A#8 7458.620 118
B0 30.868 23 B4 493.883 71 B8 7902.133 119
C1 32.703 24 C5 523.251 72 C9 8372.019 120
C#1 34.648 25 C#5 554.365 73 C#9 8869.845 121
D1 36.708 26 D5 587.330 74 D9 9397.273 122
D#1 38.891 27 D#5 622.254 75 D#9 9956.064 123
E1 41.203 28 E5 659.255 76 E9 10548.083 124
F1 43.654 29 F5 698.457 77 F9 11175.305 125
F#1 46.249 30 F#5 739.989 78 F#9 11839.823 126
G1 48.999 31 G5 783.991 79 G9 12543.855 127
G#1 51.913 32 G#5 830.609 80 G#9 13289.752 -
A1 55.000 33 A5 880.000 81 A9 - -
A#1 58.270 34 A#5 932.328 82 A#9 - -
B1 61.735 35 B5 987.767 83 B9 - -
C2 65.406 36 C6 1046.502 84
C#2 69.296 37 C#6 1108.731 85
D2 73.416 38 D6 1174.659 86
D#2 77.782 39 D#6 1244.508 87
E2 82.407 40 E6 1318.510 88
F2 87.307 41 F6 1396.913 89
F#2 92.499 42 F#6 1479.978 90
G2 97.999 43 G6 1567.982 91
G#2 103.826 44 G#6 1661.219 92
A2 110.000 45 A6 1760.000 93
A#2 116.541 46 A#6 1864.655 94
B2 123.471 47 B6 1975.533 95
C3 130.813 48 C7 2093.005 96
C#3 138.591 49 C#7 2217.461 97
D3 146.832 50 D7 2349.318 98
D#3 155.564 51 D#7 2489.016 99
E3 164.814 52 E7 2637.021 100
F3 174.614 53 F7 2793.826 101
F#3 184.997 54 F#7 2959.956 102
G3 195.998 55 G7 3135.964 103
G#3 207.652 56 G#7 3322.438 104
A3 220.000 57 A7 3520.000 105
A#3 233.082 58 A#7 3729.310 106
B3 246.942 59 B7 3951.066 107
(complements of http://www.people.virginia.edu/~pdr4h/pitch-freq.html)
Thank you!